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he said he and his son calculated how much they pay in taxes, federal income tax, payroll tax, state sales tax, state property tax, gasoline tax, it added up to well over 50% of what they earned and your plan is to take the tax rate on successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. the national federation of independent businesses says that will cost 700,000 jobs. i don't want to cost jobs. my priority is jobs. and so what i do, i bring down the tax rates, lower deductions and exemptions, the same idea by bowles-simpson, get the rate down to create more jobs. nothing better to create a balanced budget than having more people working, earning more money, paying more taxes, that's the most effective and efficient way to get the budget balanced. >> jim, you may want to move on to another topic. i would say this to the american people. if you believe we can cut taxes by $5 trillion and add $2 trillion of additional spending to the military that is not asking for, $7 trillion, to give you a sense, over ten years, that's more than our entire defense budget, and you think that by closing loop
he said he and his son calculated how much they pay in taxes, federal income tax, payroll tax, state sales tax, state property tax, gasoline tax, it added up to well over 50% of what they earned and your plan is to take the tax rate on successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. the national federation of independent businesses says that will cost 700,000 jobs. i don't want to cost jobs. my priority is jobs. and so what i do, i bring down the tax rates, lower deductions and exemptions, the...
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why not get rid of the company's and lower taxes for everyone? >> we never give out cash measure on how and expensive. we just give conditional incentives temporary tax relief. >> you have to do it to compete. to give up politician a checkbook is dangerous do anything new want to bring jobs to the state. they could be gone when the bill comes to do. you can win without doing that the seven think you governor daniels now rated number three and the most improved state not to maine court in new hampshire or north dakota. >> we are gaining on them. >> what about housing for amtrak or the post office? ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ or help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. john: did you go to the post office website? we do. since then franklin was appointed the first postmaster the post office has grown and changed with a
why not get rid of the company's and lower taxes for everyone? >> we never give out cash measure on how and expensive. we just give conditional incentives temporary tax relief. >> you have to do it to compete. to give up politician a checkbook is dangerous do anything new want to bring jobs to the state. they could be gone when the bill comes to do. you can win without doing that the seven think you governor daniels now rated number three and the most improved state not to maine...
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plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut on top of the extension of the bush tax cuts. that's another trillion dollars and $2 trillion in additional military spending that the military hasn't asked for. >> i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. that's not my plan. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut to add to the deficit. >> now, today, the president is saying, hang on. that's not mitt romney. he says romney's changing the tune on the crucial issue of taxes to make himself sound more centrist. ali velshi is here to make sense of what we heard last night. >> right. >> the first question on the tax cut proposal. the president is saying he's flip flopping. is he proposing $5 trillion in tax cuts? >> so this is a tricky one. what mitt romney is saying is he wants to reduce taxes across the board in every category. wherever you are coming down 20%. if you don't figure out where you're going to make up the taxes from, if you take 20% less from everybody it's over 10 years a $4.9 trillion loss and overstating it a little bit but there's a study that's been done and
plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut on top of the extension of the bush tax cuts. that's another trillion dollars and $2 trillion in additional military spending that the military hasn't asked for. >> i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. that's not my plan. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut to add to the deficit. >> now, today, the president is saying, hang on. that's not mitt romney. he says romney's changing the tune on the crucial issue of taxes to make himself...
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tax cut across the board. mitt romney never specified the deductions that he discusses and doesn't give specifications on, to say i don't have a tax cut is surreal and the president with malpractice not pushing back on that and demanding specifics. >> some of the president's supporters said he needed a cup of coffee or two after watching that. let's listen to this from the president, guys and then, john, i want your thoughts on this one. >> does anybody out there think that the big problem we had is that there was too much oversight and regulation of wall street? because if you do, then governor romney is your candidate. >> did he, john, miss an opportunity to go further with the banks there? >> i mean, that was one of i think president obama's better lines in the debate because he was calling out in a limited way and halting way all of a sudden mitt romney saying that the problem with the dodd-frank was that it was a big kiss to the new york banks which is itself a surreal etch-a-sketch moment. the president
tax cut across the board. mitt romney never specified the deductions that he discusses and doesn't give specifications on, to say i don't have a tax cut is surreal and the president with malpractice not pushing back on that and demanding specifics. >> some of the president's supporters said he needed a cup of coffee or two after watching that. let's listen to this from the president, guys and then, john, i want your thoughts on this one. >> does anybody out there think that the big...
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i want to keep taxes down on small business so we can create jobs. this is about good jobs for the american people. >>neil: he swings, slams, scores, way too early to say if the swing states swinging back to the challenger but after last night, the critics say they probably stopped swinging away. larry said the race ain't over but he also is saying for the challenger it is an uphill fight. what do you make of last night and how this changes the dynamics? >> everyone, obviously, just about everyone, from right to left, says that romney won the debate. i gave you a full "a" and i give the president a "c" minus. there was a giant difference between their performance. everyone who was fair was impressed with how romney handled that from going to end. obama was stunned by how well romney was performing. he seemed almost to take a step back and tune out. >>neil: do you think he came in to it is on the clock, the president, to your point he didn't expect this, and he saw little risk in taking on mitt romney and even if romney did well it would not move the
i want to keep taxes down on small business so we can create jobs. this is about good jobs for the american people. >>neil: he swings, slams, scores, way too early to say if the swing states swinging back to the challenger but after last night, the critics say they probably stopped swinging away. larry said the race ain't over but he also is saying for the challenger it is an uphill fight. what do you make of last night and how this changes the dynamics? >> everyone, obviously, just...
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i will not raise tax on middle income families. i'll lower taxes on middle income families. martha: by our count president obama mentioned the middle class 19 times, clearly a focus of every presidential election. let's talk about this. lanny davis joins me now. and jonah goldberg is the editor at large for the national review. welcome, jonah. lanny, you listened to all that. what do you think? >> i'm not very happy with the president's performance. i think he did poorly. i agree with him on substance. i think he got the better of the exchange regarding the facts and the policy. but for the obama campaign to put the spokesman on and i'm sure she is doing her best and not to admit he had a bad night and to say we ought to do fact check when the fact checkers have rated obama's ads with four pinocchios. the way to do this is to say look at governor romney. smile, be gracious. don't look down and take notes while a man is talking to you. it's as simple as admitting he had a bad night. but on policy and substance i'm still voting for him. i know she doesn't believe she was sayin
i will not raise tax on middle income families. i'll lower taxes on middle income families. martha: by our count president obama mentioned the middle class 19 times, clearly a focus of every presidential election. let's talk about this. lanny davis joins me now. and jonah goldberg is the editor at large for the national review. welcome, jonah. lanny, you listened to all that. what do you think? >> i'm not very happy with the president's performance. i think he did poorly. i agree with him...
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a tax cut that ads to the deficit. that is part one. there is no economist that can say mitt romney tax plan adds $5 trillion if i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. >> if you are lowering the rates the way you describe, governor, it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loopholes that only affect high overincome individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burdening the middle class. it is math. >>trace: which candidate had the upper hand and how much was accurate? with me is the associate editor of the financial weekly owned by the parent of this company. michael, romney says if you lower the tax rates what happens is, businesses have more money. businesses have more money they can hire more people and, guess what, everyone starts paying taxes and that is how you close the deficit. true? >>guest: it is true that is what he is saying. it is true that is the way a model would have it play out. the question and what assumptions go in that assertion by lowering rate and obviously on
a tax cut that ads to the deficit. that is part one. there is no economist that can say mitt romney tax plan adds $5 trillion if i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. >> if you are lowering the rates the way you describe, governor, it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loopholes that only affect high overincome individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burdening the middle class. it is math. >>trace: which candidate had the upper hand and...
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on top of the extension to the bush tax cuts. >> i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut. of a scale that you're talking about. i will not reduce the share paid by high income individuals. i know that you and your running mate keep saying that and i know it's a popular thing to say with a lot of people burks it's just not the case. look, i got five boys, i'm used to people saying something that's not always true. >> health care, romney was on offense, touting what he passed in massachusetts as an example of a bipartisan compromise and a model for the whole country at the state level. >> we've seen this model work really well. in massachusetts because governor romney did a good thing, working with democrats in the state to set up what is essentially the identical model. >> i like the way we did it in massachusetts. entirely on a partisan basis instead of bringing america together and having a discussion at this important topic, you pushed through something that you and nancy pelosi and harry reid thought something was the best answer and drove it thr
on top of the extension to the bush tax cuts. >> i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut. of a scale that you're talking about. i will not reduce the share paid by high income individuals. i know that you and your running mate keep saying that and i know it's a popular thing to say with a lot of people burks it's just not the case. look, i got five boys, i'm used to people saying something that's not always true. >> health care, romney was on offense, touting what...
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liz: lowering taxes improve the picture is what i am hearing you say. thank you for joining us. david riley of sovereign rating saying the triple the-credit rating for spain will remain the same even if they ask for a bailout plan. we are 16 minutes from the closing bell. walmart, target, bed bath and beyond. the want to get a read on their health? head to cleveland where real-estate investment trust td are which focuses on value oriented shopping malls coming up. we are talking to corp.'s ceo, daniel her when on whether the commercial real-estate is keeping up with the housing recovery. he has 1 twenty million square feet of it. stay tuned. agree window. liz: we are live at cleveland's rock-and-roll hall of fame and open for business. fox business focusing great american cities with business stories. you own stock in values force like wal-mart and target. want to know how they are doing? look no further than read which focuses on value oriented shopping malls. dan hurwitz is the ceo of this publicly traded company. stock is up 39%. business must be good. >> business is good and
liz: lowering taxes improve the picture is what i am hearing you say. thank you for joining us. david riley of sovereign rating saying the triple the-credit rating for spain will remain the same even if they ask for a bailout plan. we are 16 minutes from the closing bell. walmart, target, bed bath and beyond. the want to get a read on their health? head to cleveland where real-estate investment trust td are which focuses on value oriented shopping malls coming up. we are talking to corp.'s ceo,...
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let's stay on taxes. let's just stay on taxes for a moment. what is the difference? >> virtually everything he just said about my tax plan is inaccurate. >> all right. just for the record -- >> worry talking about -- >> just so everybody understands, we are way over our first 15 minutes. >> that's fine, isn't it? >> it's great. no problem. >> the last point i would make -- >> two minutes is up, sir. >> no, i had five seconds before you interrupted me. >> here are the specifics. >> excuse me. >> let's talk the other big. >> no, no, let's not. let's let him respond to this specific on dodd-frank. >> some viewers also wondered why lehrer didn't challenge romney's attack on his own network, pbs. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i love big bird. actually like you, too, but i'm not going to keep on spending money to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> the web went wild for big bird. shame shame. mentions of big bird went up 800,000%. seriously, though. l lehrer with his criticized for not explaining dodd-frank and simpson bowles to the public. obama adviser s
let's stay on taxes. let's just stay on taxes for a moment. what is the difference? >> virtually everything he just said about my tax plan is inaccurate. >> all right. just for the record -- >> worry talking about -- >> just so everybody understands, we are way over our first 15 minutes. >> that's fine, isn't it? >> it's great. no problem. >> the last point i would make -- >> two minutes is up, sir. >> no, i had five seconds before you...
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his tax cut wouldn't be anywhere near that size. >> so you're disputing the size of the tax cut? or are you disputing also how he's going to pay for it? >> we're disputing the size. >> erin, he has campaigned on lowering tax cuts by 20% for everybody, including those in the top 1%. that was one of the main selling points in the republican primary. >> so you're saying if you lower them by 20% you get a $5 trillion tab, right? >> it's a $5 trillion tab. >> but when he closes deductions he won't be anywhere near $5 trillion. that's our analysis. >> well with, okay, stipulated, it won't be near $5 trillion, but it's also not going to be the sum of $5 trillion in the loopholes that he's going to close. it is going to cost someone and it's going to cost the middle class. independent economists have taken a look at this. there aren't enough deductions for those at the top to account for the number of tax cuts that they get because of mitt romney's policies. you have to raise taxes on the middle class, as bill clinton says, it's simple math. >> they'll say, though, that you can do that.
his tax cut wouldn't be anywhere near that size. >> so you're disputing the size of the tax cut? or are you disputing also how he's going to pay for it? >> we're disputing the size. >> erin, he has campaigned on lowering tax cuts by 20% for everybody, including those in the top 1%. that was one of the main selling points in the republican primary. >> so you're saying if you lower them by 20% you get a $5 trillion tab, right? >> it's a $5 trillion tab. >> but...
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the estate tax. we'll give the top 1/10 of taxpayers an average break of $250,000. >> look, look, andrea, mitt romney pointed out that one of the things that he would do is to put a cap on the deductions. the tax policy center admitted that what they analyzed was assumptions they added to mitt romney's plan that are not deduction. >> which deductions. >> let me finish. i let you finish. now let me fin. >> yes, sir. >> the tax policy center admitted that they made assumptions that were not part of mitt romney's tax plan. there are six or seven follow-up studies that say romney's tax plan can do what the governor has said he would. he's going to eliminate or cap deductions on upper income brackets there is more enough in the basket of choices there to take care of providing the to 20% tax reduction to the middle class. >> no, there are not. >> with all due respect to what obama people are putting out, they're wrong on it. >> i'm not talking about what the obama people are talking. first of all, those a
the estate tax. we'll give the top 1/10 of taxpayers an average break of $250,000. >> look, look, andrea, mitt romney pointed out that one of the things that he would do is to put a cap on the deductions. the tax policy center admitted that what they analyzed was assumptions they added to mitt romney's plan that are not deduction. >> which deductions. >> let me finish. i let you finish. now let me fin. >> yes, sir. >> the tax policy center admitted that they made...
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my tax plan is inaccurate. if the tax plan he described were a tax plan i was asked to support, i would say absolutely not. >> reporter: there's no time for rest. the senior advisers on the "today" show, early this morning. >> governor romney put more preparation into it than they did into the invasion of normandy. i expected a strong performance and got it. >> many were watching governor romney without 30 second attack ads. >> reporter: perhaps most evidence during the closing statement. >> four years ago, i said i'm not a perfect man and wouldn't be a perfect president. that's probably a promise governor romney thinks i kept. i fight every day for the american people. >> no question in my mind, if the president were to continue to be reelected, there will be a middle class squeeze. i'll get incomes up again. >> they weren't the only characters in last night's debate. twitter and face book lit up with viewers commenting and arguing. it was the most tweeted event in political history. ket? >> the next president
my tax plan is inaccurate. if the tax plan he described were a tax plan i was asked to support, i would say absolutely not. >> reporter: there's no time for rest. the senior advisers on the "today" show, early this morning. >> governor romney put more preparation into it than they did into the invasion of normandy. i expected a strong performance and got it. >> many were watching governor romney without 30 second attack ads. >> reporter: perhaps most evidence...
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i will lower taxes on middle income families. >> he's going to get rid of the estate tax, mr. mayor, which aims directly at the top rate. the people who have a quarter million bucks and want to leave it to their kids. it's nor the very rich. he wants to lower the top rate from 35% to 28% for the richest people in the country. he wants to take the corp rate rate from 35% to 25%. >> clearly at that stage mr. obama should have turned to him and said you are not telling the american people the truth. just as he did today in denver when he said he wasn't telling the truth. he should have looked him in the eye and said mitt romney, you are not telling the american people the truth. and then proceed to walk through as clinton would have done the mathematics to prove it. i don't think romney would have been smart enough to figure out how to get out of that hit, but obama ignored that opportunity and i think that's a mistake. joan, you're correct. he will everywhere he goes, he will save the day and correct what he didn't do last night, but 58 million people will not be able to be cont
i will lower taxes on middle income families. >> he's going to get rid of the estate tax, mr. mayor, which aims directly at the top rate. the people who have a quarter million bucks and want to leave it to their kids. it's nor the very rich. he wants to lower the top rate from 35% to 28% for the richest people in the country. he wants to take the corp rate rate from 35% to 25%. >> clearly at that stage mr. obama should have turned to him and said you are not telling the american...
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he said he calculates how much they pay in taxes. state income tax, state sales tax, gasoline tax. it added up to well over 50% of what they earn. your plan is to take the tax rate on successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. the national federation of independent businesses has said that will cost 700,000 jobs. i don't want to cost jobs. my priority is jobs. so what i do is i bring down the tax rates, lower the deductions and exemptions. the same idea behind simpson, by the way. lower the deductions and exemptions to create more jobs, because there is nothing better for getting us to a balanced budget than having more people working, earning more money, paying more taxes. that's by far the most effective way to get this budget balanced. >> you may want to move on to another topic, but i would say this to the american people. if you believe that we can cut taxes by $5 trillion and add $2 trillion in additional spending that the military is not asking for, $7 trillion, just to give you a sense, that's more than our entire defense budget, and you think that by closing loopholes an
he said he calculates how much they pay in taxes. state income tax, state sales tax, gasoline tax. it added up to well over 50% of what they earn. your plan is to take the tax rate on successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. the national federation of independent businesses has said that will cost 700,000 jobs. i don't want to cost jobs. my priority is jobs. so what i do is i bring down the tax rates, lower the deductions and exemptions. the same idea behind simpson, by the way. lower the...
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so if the tax plan he described were a tax plan i was asked to support, i'd say absolutely not. i'm not looking for 5i trillion tax cut. i won't put in a place a tax cut that adds to the deficit. i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. that's not my plan. >> that's three different moments during this debate when mitt romney noticed the bump in the set for obama. what he's saying there is he's arguing against math. the idea that you can cut faxes 20%, can you tell taxes for everybody and it's deficit neutral and faye for it by closing unspecified loop moles and dealing with deductions. that is the romney position. it's up to bahama to make romney get specific about it to say okay. it's easy to say you deal with the deductions and it's easy to say it's deficit neutral and let's talk about the specific deductions and talk about the home interest deduction and health care deduction and the charitable giving deduction. these are things that people rely on and things that are popular with voters. let's put mitt romney on the spot here and say if you pay for it with deductions, this
so if the tax plan he described were a tax plan i was asked to support, i'd say absolutely not. i'm not looking for 5i trillion tax cut. i won't put in a place a tax cut that adds to the deficit. i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. that's not my plan. >> that's three different moments during this debate when mitt romney noticed the bump in the set for obama. what he's saying there is he's arguing against math. the idea that you can cut faxes 20%, can you tell taxes for everybody...
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federal income tax, federal payroll tax, state sales tax, state property tax, gasoline tax added up to well over 50% of what they earned. in your plan is to take the tax rate on successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. the national federation of independent businesses has said that will cost 700,000 jobs. i don't want to cost jobs. my priority is jobs. and so, what i do is bring down the tax rates. lower deductions and exemptions. the same idea behind simpson/bowles, by the way, get the rates down to create more jobs because there is nothing better for getting us to a balanced budget than having more people working, earning more money, pay more taxes. that is by far the most effective and efficient way to get this budget balanced. obama: jim come you may want to move onto another topic, but i want to say this to the american people. if you believe we can cut taxes by $5 trillion that $2 trillion in additional spending that the military is not asking for, $7 trillion, just to get a sense of her 10 years, that is more than our entire defense budget. anything by closing loopholes and
federal income tax, federal payroll tax, state sales tax, state property tax, gasoline tax added up to well over 50% of what they earned. in your plan is to take the tax rate on successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. the national federation of independent businesses has said that will cost 700,000 jobs. i don't want to cost jobs. my priority is jobs. and so, what i do is bring down the tax rates. lower deductions and exemptions. the same idea behind simpson/bowles, by the way, get the...
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and they ran over several segments talking about taxes, mitt romney's tax plan, $5 trillion tax breaks, mostly for the wealthy, the president kept saying over and over and mitt romney stopped him and said you're totally mischaracterizing my plan, that's not what i'm proposing at all. they also talked about medicare they talked about wall street reform, and whether or not that was done properly. but the strongest exchange was about health care and jobs, and as mitt romney put it, why the president spent so much time in the middle of a recession focusing on getting his health law passed. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table, and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. >> we did work on this, alongside working on jobs, because this is part of making sure that middle class families are secure in this country. >> reporter: a couple of the big instant overnight polls that we've seen, u
and they ran over several segments talking about taxes, mitt romney's tax plan, $5 trillion tax breaks, mostly for the wealthy, the president kept saying over and over and mitt romney stopped him and said you're totally mischaracterizing my plan, that's not what i'm proposing at all. they also talked about medicare they talked about wall street reform, and whether or not that was done properly. but the strongest exchange was about health care and jobs, and as mitt romney put it, why the...
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raising taxes on the average family by up to $2000 dollars. while giving a tax break of $250,000 dollars to multi-millionaires. doesn't mitt romney understand, we can't rebuild america...by tearing down the middle class. priorities usa action is responsible for the content of this advertising. >>> no sooner did the nationals get into the play-offs and the government threw cold water on fans by announcing higher taxi fairs for the postseason games. but the mayor complained. >> tom sherwood joins us with the story. >> jim, there are going to be huge crowds, but no one expected higher taxi fares. more than 6,000 cabs in the district. none will make extra money with $1 passenger surcharges during the play-offs announced wednesday evening, killed hours later. what happened? you reversed it? >> well, they told me, the mayor made it clear he didn't approve of it. and it's the mayor's program. and so i rescinded it. >> reporter: maybe quickly reversed, but there's still a lot of irritation about the jolt to fans. >> never understood the rationale for
raising taxes on the average family by up to $2000 dollars. while giving a tax break of $250,000 dollars to multi-millionaires. doesn't mitt romney understand, we can't rebuild america...by tearing down the middle class. priorities usa action is responsible for the content of this advertising. >>> no sooner did the nationals get into the play-offs and the government threw cold water on fans by announcing higher taxi fairs for the postseason games. but the mayor complained. >> tom...
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they cut taxes 19 times. they balanced the budget and got a rainy day fund and upgraded their credit rating in massachusetts. they brought unemployment down to 5.7%. and that's in sharp contrast. we've had our national credit rating downgraded as a result of president obama's policies. he's not worked across the aisle and we've had unemployment go up as a result of his policies. >> gretchen: although president obama's biggest critique of your candidate is that there simply are not enough details in his plan. so how do you respond to that criticism? >> you heard a lot of details from governor romney last night. in fact, he's been going across the country talking about the romney plan for a stronger middle class and talking about the details. i think people saw that last night. i think what they did not see from president obama was an agenda for a second term should he be reelected. but we know that it would be more of the same. if you like the last four years, you would love the next four years under president
they cut taxes 19 times. they balanced the budget and got a rainy day fund and upgraded their credit rating in massachusetts. they brought unemployment down to 5.7%. and that's in sharp contrast. we've had our national credit rating downgraded as a result of president obama's policies. he's not worked across the aisle and we've had unemployment go up as a result of his policies. >> gretchen: although president obama's biggest critique of your candidate is that there simply are not enough...
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romney's tax plan. for months he's been telling us that he'll cut everyone's taxes by 20%. so some of the country's brightest economists did the math and found that romney's tax plan promises to cut taxes by $5 trillion without adding to the deficit. but when mitt romney took to the stage last night, he delivered a line that beggared belief. >> no economist can say mitt romney's tax plan adds $5 trillion if i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. >> so black is white, up is down, and everything is the way he says it is in the world of mitt romney. like yago, mitt romney delivered those lines in the presence of a black man, but on this occasion the president would not be deceived. he allowed mr. romney to rehearse the full extent of his lie and then just a few hours ago drew our attention to what really happened last night. >> the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts in favor of the wealthy. the fellow on stage last night said he didn't know anything about that. >> mr. romney is quite rightly
romney's tax plan. for months he's been telling us that he'll cut everyone's taxes by 20%. so some of the country's brightest economists did the math and found that romney's tax plan promises to cut taxes by $5 trillion without adding to the deficit. but when mitt romney took to the stage last night, he delivered a line that beggared belief. >> no economist can say mitt romney's tax plan adds $5 trillion if i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. >> so black is white,...
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tax plan. and, now five weeks before the election, saying this big bold idea is, never mind. the fact is that if you are lowering the rates the way you describe, governor, then it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loopholes that only effect high income individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burdennening the middle class. >> according to a poll by cnn 67% of americans believe that republican mitt romney was the winner in this first debate. and that compares to 25% who thought it was the democrat president obama who won. you can share what you think about the debates on our facebook fan page. >> we'll check the markets when we come back. ♪ [ male announcer ] the first look...is only the beginning. ♪ ♪ introducing a stunning work of technology. ♪ introducing the entirely new lexus es. and the first ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. droid does. and does it launch apps by voice while learning your voice ? launch cab4me. droid does. keep left a
tax plan. and, now five weeks before the election, saying this big bold idea is, never mind. the fact is that if you are lowering the rates the way you describe, governor, then it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loopholes that only effect high income individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burdennening the middle class. >> according to a poll by cnn 67% of americans believe that republican mitt romney was the winner in this first debate. and that compares...
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another issue that came up -- taxes. last night, president obama made it clear he is going to raise taxes. today, vice president joe biden made it even more clear. in i what he said, he asked himself a question and he asked if he and president obama wants a trillion dollar tax hike. his response to himself was yes, we do. that is a direct quote. virginia, no, we do not mitt romney will talk about this in a minute. what we do not needs is a
another issue that came up -- taxes. last night, president obama made it clear he is going to raise taxes. today, vice president joe biden made it even more clear. in i what he said, he asked himself a question and he asked if he and president obama wants a trillion dollar tax hike. his response to himself was yes, we do. that is a direct quote. virginia, no, we do not mitt romney will talk about this in a minute. what we do not needs is a
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this is a tax in and of itself. i'll call it the economy tax. it's been crushing. >> earlier in the week, vice president biden had said the middle class has been buried for the past four years. the issue they came closest to agreeing on, social security. the candidates here last night also sparred on other issues, including job creation, deficit reduction and health care. >> the presidential candidates will next square off on october 16th in long island. the second debate will take place on the campus of hofstra university, and it will be in the format of a town hall meeting. that means undecided voters will ask the questions. the candidates will focus on foreign and domestic policy. we've learned that first lady michelle obama will make another trip to virginia next week to campaign for her husband. she will visit loudoun county on tuesday, october 9th. we'll pass along additional details as they become available. the announcement highlights just how important northern virginia is in the race for the white house. tomorrow president obama will b
this is a tax in and of itself. i'll call it the economy tax. it's been crushing. >> earlier in the week, vice president biden had said the middle class has been buried for the past four years. the issue they came closest to agreeing on, social security. the candidates here last night also sparred on other issues, including job creation, deficit reduction and health care. >> the presidential candidates will next square off on october 16th in long island. the second debate will take...
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we pay taxes. i pay taxes every year. we are supporting america. it was sad from president obama's perspective. host: where do you agree with the republicans? caller: i agree with the republicans with same-sex marriage and that we need to do more with our business. the way things look is really sad. host: next is a mitt romney supporter in pennsylvania, mark. do you think that romney has a chance in pennsylvania? caller: i think it is looking good for him. everybody is talking about the 47%. you are talking - the republicans got locked out and could not give their point of view on obamacare. now everybody is worried about what mitt romney said. i am totally flabbergasted over this. obama was talking about the tax cuts that they are given to companies overseas. koch -- he had four years to do something about it. you had the lady that was just on a little while ago and she was talking about -- i lost my train of thought. host: barber in missouri -- barbara in missouri -- host: with regard to the debate, marcie e-mails in -- host: a president obama su
we pay taxes. i pay taxes every year. we are supporting america. it was sad from president obama's perspective. host: where do you agree with the republicans? caller: i agree with the republicans with same-sex marriage and that we need to do more with our business. the way things look is really sad. host: next is a mitt romney supporter in pennsylvania, mark. do you think that romney has a chance in pennsylvania? caller: i think it is looking good for him. everybody is talking about the 47%....
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the tax plan still doesn't add up. the question for him is whether or not he's able to obscure o that on the stage tonight. >> ezra. thank you. so chris hayes, do we end up in a mega-audience version of paul ryan saying this weekend, i don't really have the time to give you the numbers. i'd bore you if i gave you the math. >> that, to me, is the most fascinating element in this debate. is that he has said time and time again, mitt romney even said at one point, look, i learned from governor christie, if you give people details, they just use it to attack you. he has said explicitly as a matter of strategy, we won't give you more details. so how long can he avoid details on stage with the president for 90 minutes. and the other problem, it's not just bain, it's not just fact that this is the wealthiest man to run for president, well, in nominal dollars, ever, but in real dollars, in a long time. but he is proposing the same thing that republicans always propose when they get into office. the one reliable policy you can
the tax plan still doesn't add up. the question for him is whether or not he's able to obscure o that on the stage tonight. >> ezra. thank you. so chris hayes, do we end up in a mega-audience version of paul ryan saying this weekend, i don't really have the time to give you the numbers. i'd bore you if i gave you the math. >> that, to me, is the most fascinating element in this debate. is that he has said time and time again, mitt romney even said at one point, look, i learned from...
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you specifically said you would cut this tax, this tax, this tax. >> a lot of promises. >> that add up to 5 trillion. how will you pay for that? i think that will linger a bit. >> if somebody asks him specifically what loop holes and deductions are you proposing to do away with? the president hasn't asked that question. no one has asked him that question. >> chris wallace has, actually. paul ryan. >> the bigger issue is that you can take every single deduction there is, abolish them all and that adds up to $5 trillion. >> no, i don't agree with you on that. the tax policy center you're referring to is incomplete and they've revised it since then. >> i'm not just referring to that analysis. >> governor romney did talk about how he would eliminate some deductions. he would have a bucket that he would fill up. >> what was he saying was in that bucket? let's make up a number. here is what the number is. >> he said it could be $50,000, if you capped deductions at $50,000, you're not even in the ballpark of $5 trillion. >> it was not a specific what are the actual loop holes. i think that wa
you specifically said you would cut this tax, this tax, this tax. >> a lot of promises. >> that add up to 5 trillion. how will you pay for that? i think that will linger a bit. >> if somebody asks him specifically what loop holes and deductions are you proposing to do away with? the president hasn't asked that question. no one has asked him that question. >> chris wallace has, actually. paul ryan. >> the bigger issue is that you can take every single deduction...